[sixQuarks]

I'm interested in co-working/co-living spaces, but I'm a bit older (late 30s), I don't want to do the "hostel" thing, and I want to be around others who are successfully running real remote businesses with decent income.

My problem with the whole nomad thing is that most "nomads" are just bloggers starting out. It seems most have just saved enough money to live off of (frugally), and are calling themselves digital nomads. Not much different than regular travellers.

Even the founders of Nomad House look like they've never done anything before - if you read their profiles, they are "builders of businesses" and "growth hackers", whatever that means.

That being said, this might be fun if you're a 20-something, and a bit different than staying at a hostel, but I wouldn't expect to get much more out of it.

[O____________O]

but I'm a bit older (late 30s), I don't want to do the "hostel" thing

Assuming you haven't done much traveling, you'd be surprised at who shows up at hostels. It varies greatly by area, but it's not all the partying, early 20's kids that you might imagine.

Also, there are many things besides classic hostels that sort of fall into the hostel category. For example, I stayed in a very nice guest house in Thailand, and in a great dormitory-style apartment in Tokyo.

[atudoute]

Thanks for the feedback. I'm a freelancer since 4 year and I'm trying to change the world to be a better place, but I understand you that I never done anything before.

[practicalpants]

Well, I hope your aims are sincere... I am getting a little annoyed with these digital nomad 'startups' that just want to make money off of other digital nomads, like they're any other market segment to fit a product to. "The Digital Nomad Space." Sucks where it's heading. Like the recent poster doing a similar thing as you but more pricey with a REIT investment group potentially backing him (he's also promoting you, so I don't know, maybe you, him, the nomad list guy are all working together... not that it really matters)... or the "nomad year" venture where you throw down a ton of money to have everything planned out for you (kind of the opposite of being digital nomad IMO), or that IMO unjustifiable digital nomad 'insider' forum where you have to pay simply to chat with other digital nomads. I'm not a cheap person, I just want to keep SV profiteering out of digital nomad land. There are some main culprits, individuals, that come to mind (nobody I'm going to name)... but oh well, what can you really expect?

On the bright side, there's a huge opportunity for someone to sweep through all of this and just offer free concierge services for digital nomads. I met someone working on this, I imagine there are others. That will ultimately take the day when someone gets that formula right. Something more of the spirit of couch surfing.

I'm ranting. Anyways, if you can manage cheap rates at really cool pads, in a way that's better than just splitting an AirBnB with other nomads, then that is something pretty cool.

[ashark]

From the outside, the blogging culture for "digital nomads" already seems like hopeless, sell-out garbage. Frequent low-content posts that have the same promising-but-never-delivering feel as "long copy" marketing, blog-format where something more like a privately-editable Wiki or simple traditional informational site (do people still do those?) would be far more helpful (but, crucially, may have worse SEO to drive traffic to their "funnel"! [vomit]),

"Sign up for our newsletter!" pop-ups.

"Learn how I make money to travel using credit card affiliate links (spoiler alert: it's by writing articles about how I make money from credit card affiliate links)".

"Buy my awful book! Here's a crappy CG render of what it might look like if I had even bothered to on-demand print it!"

It's like all those "growth hacking" marketing sites that started popping up a few years ago. Or Mister Money Mustache, for that matter ("how I live free and cheap and don't even have a job! Spoiler alert: it's by already being kind of rich so I avoid most of the expenses and risk that poor people have, and in fact I work three part time jobs, one of which is this website, so that was simply a lie. Click my affiliate links!") I haven't read Timothy Ferriss, but I see him referenced all the time in relation to these sorts of things. Is he responsible for this explosion of cynical, manipulative, garbage websites that now infest the Internet, or is someone else to blame? The whole thing feels like Amway.

To sum up: speaking as someone on the outside of all this, I'm not sure throwing a few start-ups in to the mix could make the digital nomads' public online presence much scummier[1].

[1] NOT saying even a substantial fraction of people living this life are scummy, mind you!

[EDIT] Tim Ferris -> Timothy Ferriss

[archagon]

Well, HN is kind of self-selecting in that respect. I imagine that a more "mature", less SV type of nomad house won't be advertising themselves too much, lest the nomad bloggers come pouring in. (Who, by the way, I have nothing against, but it's not my kind of community either.)

[atudoute]

Awesome feedback. We are on the same page, and I will try to be the cool solution between AirBnB, Hotel, Hostel and other co-living space.

Thank you.

[nols]

If you've done something before, say what it is. There are tons of people who give that exact same "I've been an entrepreneur for years and I'm changing the world" speech and are bloggers or "social media rockstars". It's not trying to insult you, it's an evaluation of someone they might rent from or do business with. If you've done things now is your chance to plug them too.

[hisem]

I'm guessing that by "freelancer" he didn't mean "entrepreneur", meaning he did work as an "independent contractor" for 4 years for other people but this is his first startup project.

[atudoute]

Exactly ;)

[uniclaude]

There can be room for several types of nomad networks. People starting companies on their savings and freelancers starting their careers won't look for the same thing than founders who just closed Series B or $400/h Oracle consultants. Yet, a bit of nomad life can be of interest to all those people.

If there is market demand for some high-end nomad freelance network, it will probably happen soon. The hype is here.

[anonnomad]

There's plenty of digital nomads building legimitate business or doing proper remote "work" (see my comment below). They tend not to be too outspoken, write blog posts, because they are busy, well, doing work. Most of these folks however don't travel too much anymore as they have found a home-base they feel productive in.