[vacri]

I'm waiting for this new foundation to have their moment where they call a core developer an asshole in public, throw him under a bus, and say that if he was an employee, he'd be fired rather than retrained... all while talking about the importance of empathy.

Regardless of the event itself, that was an exceptionally poor handling (soapboxing?) of the situation, and didn't speak much of ability to mediate a heated situation. A foundation born from this management style? Doesn't sound encouraging.

[1]https://www.joyent.com/blog/the-power-of-a-pronoun

[Lazare]

I was wondering if anyone would bring that one up. For me, that was the moment I stopped having vague concerns about Joyent and Node, and realised "wow, these people can't be trusted to run a project".

[trakkur]

Not the first time Bryan Cantrill has done that:

    http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-suns-need-to-control-the-code-cost-them-the-company/

    or: http://www.cryptnet.net/mirrors/texts/kissedagirl.html

[mercer]

I completely agree. I hesitate to say this because it might come across too much as 'gut feeling' (and I apologize in advance), but Joyent seems to be somehow too lopsided towards the 'public relations corporate' side of things over developing and maintaining something valuable.

It's not so much to do with my opinion of the specifics of the situation with Noordhuis, or the announcement that is the object of this conversation, but rather the vaguer feeling that they feel way too much like a 'company' acting in its own interest for me to trust them.

[darkmarmot]

wow, hadn't read the post. that alone puts me firmly rooting for the io.js camp.

[4ad]

Yeah, because you should chose your software based on your dislike for some community members, not because of real technical facts.

[tracker1]

While I understand... plenty of people have chosen "not windows" for server-side projects for just that reason.

[bronson]

When a project has questionable or poisonous leadership, it's technically wise to steer clear.

[4ad]

Bryan Cantrill is the CTO of Joyent, not the leader of the Node.js project.

[tracker1]

And what company owns Node.js again?

[4ad]

No company owns Node.js.