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Well, I frequently see the people mentioned above, especially the elderly needing help with their phones or email or online banking, and giving their passwords to a trusted family member thinking that they are the only ones listening. So yea, it happens, a LOT. And big companies like Samsung and Sony never get hacked, right? MITM never happen, that's jus fantasy, right?

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If that's a concern, you shouldn't use any online service at all. There's nothing special about voice command that makes it more susceptible to being hacked than every other service that you use every single day. In fact, it's a great deal more difficult, because now the attacker has to have an equally sophisticated voice recognition system at their disposal in order to interpret the intercepted data.

Besides, when they can hack the database itself and get a list of what they know to be passwords, why wouldn't they just do that instead of hacking a bunch of voice snippets and combing through them hoping to maybe find where somebody said a password. It's stupid.

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These aren't even logical arguments. I've presented use cases where voice recognition may be the only feasible way to interact. Is a voice recognition server's security as secure as my banks? Seriously, I'm done arguing with someone who fails to rebut logical arguments and just doubles down on a fairly ignorant position.

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Just because you don't seem to understand the logic, doesn't mean it's not logical.

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Marginalizing an entire group of people simply because it doesn't fit with your narrative isn't logical, it's ignorance.

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If you're just going to make up your own things that I said, there's not really much point in me saying anything. How am I marginalizing anyone? I never said anything about voice recognition not existing or not being used. In order for it to work, it needs to transmit data to a server owned by the company providing the service. That's just a simple technological fact. If they're going to use it, they need to weigh what I think is a vanishingly small privacy risk against the benefits they get from the service. Just like you have to do for literally every online service in existence.

People can use the service and come to terms with that fact or they can not use it. If they choose not to use it, they need to live with the consequences of that decision. If it means they have no other way to access some service, then that's something they need to take into account. I can't think of any service in existence that can only be accessed by voice recognition instead of having an phone representative, physical branch, or other options. If you really, really need to access your bank account, there are plenty of options aside from speaking to your smart TV. Nobody is getting marginalized here.

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>In fact, it's a great deal more difficult, because now the attacker has to have an equally sophisticated voice recognition system at their disposal in order to interpret the intercepted data.

Or you just pass the data to Siri or Cortana (or whatever microsoft is calling it). Protecting against hacking is defense in depth. If the database is well protected and monitored, attack the target that is not well protected and monitored.