[oliwarner]

Bad example. Gun control is fairly total in western Europe. In the UK you can own certain guns but to own anything other than a 3-shot shotgun you need a "good reason" to own it and can only use it in certain places.

And I think most people are happy with that situation. Some aren't but any of their arguments are quickly smothered with a "look at the US where they can't go 18 minutes without shooting (and killing) somebody"... It's a hard argument to counter. There's no right to arm yourself, there's no enshrined want to overthrow a government... Simply put, safety wins.

So yeah... I guess they'd seize on that and say that it's all for the best. I know it isn't, you know it isn't... But if they say it enough, and find an example of 20 where encryption is costing lives, it won't be long before the public thinks it's the right idea.

[thaumasiotes]

> arguments are quickly smothered with a "look at the US where they can't go 18 minutes without shooting (and killing) somebody"... It's a hard argument to counter

Sometimes I go for up to 30 minutes without doing this ;)

[Diederich]

> Bad example. Gun control is fairly total in western Europe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland

Though the opening line kind of agrees with you:

> Gun politics in Switzerland are unique in Europe