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by CamperBob2 4155 days ago
But the contract is often the difference between a disagreement that gets worked out, and a posting on Clients from Hell.

I can't think of a single case where that's been true, in either my experience or anyone else's.

The contract language comes into play when everything has already gone to hell. Yes, there needs to be a contract. But you should never assume it will give you any particular leverage over a larger, well-represented client who has elected to take an adversarial position.
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sethrin 4155 days ago
Argument from lack of imagination. But I don't think the the large, well-represented adversarial client is as common as the clients who are simply stupid. Either way it's not something I have a lot of personal experience with, but Clients from Hell is pretty full up with stupid, greedy clients and equally stupid designers with bad contracts. As an example: http://clientsfromhell.net/post/107004953453/me-your-invoice...

The above is clearly a situation where contract verbiage for transfer of rights would make any subsequent conversation on the topic very short. However, as to your general point, what do you suggest? Is that risk something that can be mitigated, or priced into your rates?

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brudgers 4154 days ago
The client conveyed their intent not to pay when they asked for the special favor. I mean the special favor was not paying when push comes to shove. In general, most people aren't sociopathic, so they have to find a way of rationalizing their bad behavior. The web designer/programmer does favors of a financial type for them and stopping the favors makes the designer/programmer the bad person.
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brudgers 4155 days ago
Contracts work really well for resolving problems when the parties operate at the institutional level. The people at the school board are constrained by the institution. The corporation managing the construction is bigger than the just another project manager running the job. Individuals are limited in how badly they can get away with behaving.

There were already lawyers working for both parties before they signed the contract. Nobody has to find one just because there was disagreement.

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