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by pgcudahy 4152 days ago
"Its well established that no vaccine has an effect that lasts longer than seven years"

Wrong. Every vaccine has a different level of immunigenicity that effects how long it is protective for but some certainly last longer that seven years. Factors such as whether the vaccine is protein conjugated or has other adjuvants can determine this. This article is about measles and one study (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2393239/) found that immunity lasts at least 15 years

"The reason we immunize children is because their hygiene practices are poorer than most adults and they are a marginalized class" No, we immunize children because they are often more vulnerable to disease. It is an adult parent's duty to protect them and vaccines are part of that

"For a recent example look at Ebola. Many people simply can't get it because they are too healthy. This is why ebola never went anywhere in the USA and many other countries." I don't even know where to begin. Two nurses who went to incredible lengths to wear protective gowns still contracted the virus in Texas. It was only due to a massive public health effort in keeping track of every contact that the virus was contained.

"It was known by pharma companies that the live attenuated virus would become a full strength virus in the child's stool. Look it up, I remember at least one American woman catching it from changing a diaper and it was in the news. Now we use dead virus because of people like her" There is distorting the use of the Salk live vaccine and the Sabin killed vaccine. In very high incidence areas a live vaccine is used since it is transmissible so that even without perfect vaccine coverage, the vaccine strain will spread further in the population. This does very rarely cause clinical disease but the feeling is that this is much safer than letting the wild-type strain circulate. Once a population is polio free and the wild-type strain is no longer circulating, the killed vaccine is then used to stop spread of the attenuated live vaccine. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine#Oral_vaccine)

"Vaccines are a great tool. Like any tool they should be voluntary." Would you argue that parents should also have a voluntary choice whether to place their children in car seats?

"please note that no one died" The ones at risk of dying are infants and thanks to a robust public health effort they were able to be quarantined. It would have saved a ton of time and effort if people had simply been immunized. Prior to the measles vaccine there were dozens of deaths each year to measles. No one has ever died from measles vaccine.