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by jasonkester 4156 days ago
The second paragraph explains the first. I imagine that's why somebody downvoted your reply.

Repeating though, in case it wasn't clear: When your boss says "Yeah, we're going to need you to come in on Saturday... yeah, we lost some people this week, and now we're gonna have to sorta play catch-up. And yeah, we're going to need you to go ahead and come in on Sunday too". That's a request. It's something you can (and should) say "No" to.

It's entirely possible that there may be ramifications for standing up for yourself in the face of silly demands from management. But there's absolute certainty of bad things happening if you don't. (Namely, the terrible thing you've just been asked to do, as well as dozens of repeat performances now that you've declared yourself as somebody who can be walked over.)

The best course is always to remain professional, stand up for yourself, and ensure that you remain on equal footing with your employer. If they do choose to fire you for working the hours you agreed to work when they hired you, there are worse things than being a skilled developer in the single best market for talent in history.
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jacquesm 4156 days ago
Right. But the whole point is that if you have just been handed a newborn then your option to 'walk out' is simply non-existent and so any principled stance would have to be postponed until the breadwinner is out of the danger zone. The employer here seems to be engaging in some kind of revenge tactic, as though the leave was to be made up for rather than something that left the balance between employer/employee and employee/co-workers in tact.

So I don't see this as a request at all, a request is something that you practically can say yes to, which doesn't appear to be the case here and does not come in the form of an order.

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jasonkester 4156 days ago
Again, saying no to a request to sacrifice all your nights and weekends for a month is not the same as quitting your job. It's certainly not a fireable offence.

They do indeed have places where an employer can reasonably ask an employee to sacrifice his entire life for the company. Those places are nearly all called "Japan", and the employer/employee relationship is very different to that in the USA.

Try enslaving your workers here (or firing them for refusing to be enslaved), and you face an unpleasant lawsuit.

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