[jafaku]

I never said they were good fighters, just that they practice with real swords, while in Kendo they don't. But of course they fight even less than the guys from Kendo, because nobody wants to get a scratch nowadays. So people only have two options: "fight" with fake swords, or learn to use real swords but without fighting. I'd take the second option, but I think both are pretty much useless.