[DanBC]

> First of all, I am glad to hear that you want to talk about the difficult cases because it means that you are okay with Catholic teaching in non-rape cases.

No, it very much does not. The fact that your failed to comprehend this is telling.

For clarity: the Catholic Church routinely abuses human rights. Sometimes this is a direct result of proclamations from the Pope and thus a core part of the religion (eg use of contraception); sometimes this is because of the structure of the church (eg routine physical and emotional abuse of looked after children; transfering child-abusing priests from one area to a different area).

Parent claimed that following the teachings of the Catholic church made them less cruel. This is a weird position to hold considering the very great harm the Catholic church has perpetuated, even in recent years.

[marczellm]

Can you educate me about this? I don't understand how a religious stance of "don't use contraceptives" can be an abuse of human rights, when anyone is free to decide whether they follow the teachings of said religion or not?

[sirrocco]

> anyone is free to decide whether they follow the teachings of said religion or not

Everyone that has enough mental power to escape the mantra of " you are going to hell and burn for all eternity ". Many, many people truly believe that they are going to hell for the use of a condom so they are not as free as you think. They will be punished if they don't obey. That's how religion works, do what we say or you will get eternal punishment in a fiery pit. (but as George Carlin said .... god loves you)