[jacquesm]

Hurd simply never was ready and/or welcoming outsiders that might have pulled it in a direction where the anointed did not want it to go (such as, actually releasing something).

Hurd and Minix both missed critical windows of opportunity and ended up so far behind Linux that they might as well not have bothered. For the longest time the only thing that kept new people flooding into Minix was Tanenbaums courses at VU.

[dandrews]

Hurd not welcoming outsiders? My experience was opposite; for a short while I was a tourist on the dev list, and was never made to feel out of place.