[bringking]

I am not sure why it's becoming popular to say "It’s unacceptable that the underlying framework is bigger than the application itself." If your domain specific implementation is smaller than the framework itself, it means the framework did exactly what it was supposed to do, it reduced the amount of work you had to do to implement your app.

[alexro]

it is really unacceptable when your app can do without it - and that's Riot is trying to prove. It doesn't mean to hurt your feelings.

[bringking]

I agree that it is unacceptable/irresponsible in a way to have a larger payload than is necessary, but I think that is a different issue. Something like selective importing only what you need from the framework vs. the whole shebang.

[alexro]

That's another way of staying minimal, but still, the library makers get to maintain that pile of rarely used features and that may slow down development, delay releases.