[mattgreenrocks]

Actually, those 'stagnant' languages are powering your OS, your browser, the backend server, etc. They've had millions of dollars invested into them for development, implementation, and optimization. Doesn't mean they're good, but more that they're [usually] good enough that you can completely ignore them. Talk about abstraction!

Anyway, lots of frameworks coming out != progress. Similarly, lack of new frameworks != stagnation. It often implies maturity, especially if the language has undergone a previous period of hype.

Good tech stays around. Everything else dies by the wayside. Easier to just sit back and see who's left standing a year later. React looks desirable in my eyes because it isn't a framework with a God complex (aka all 'opinionated' frameworks).

[agmcleod]

Well if nothing is changing with the language, or no new frameworks, then that does mean stagnation. Is it a bad thing? Of course not. Such stable languages and tools are great to have.

Likewise I do think the sleuth of frameworks means progress. Not always good progress, but we will continue to learn and improve things going forward as these experiments succeed or fail.

[woah]

Yea, I'm not saying that the churn is a good thing. But I do think that in 5 years, JS/HTML/CSS will be a truly great interface toolkit because of all the ideas that are being tested now. It is kind of annoying at the moment.