[onan_barbarian]

> It also happens to be as hard or harder than most other types of software engineering.

This remarkable statement is probably true if we correct difficulty levels to the average ability of the population of "web developers".

Doing stuff that's "math-heavy or algorithmic" often involves years of training before you are even remotely effective. People are not snapping up the equivalent of "code school grads with little experience" to design and build optimizing compilers, computer vision systems, high performance distributed systems, operating systems, etc.

[vinceguidry]

Double standard much?

You need years of training before you're any good at web dev too. For the fields you listed, people build toy solutions to all of those problems all the time. Just for fun.

So much unreasonable elitism in this industry.