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by AnthonyMouse 4173 days ago
> Corruption is a problem, but it's an inherent part of our system, just like crime. Pretending like it can be eliminated is a massive time waster.

There is no hope of eliminating it, but that's hardly the same thing as allowing it to proliferate without bound.

> As for dealing with hackers, they can't really hack things if their systems are compromised, can they? Ask Iran how their nuclear development is going, thanks to Stuxnet, for example.

Stuxnet is by far the outlier. If you compromise their systems they will, at worst, have to get new ones. The cost difference between a PC and a uranium enrichment facility is something like five orders of magnitude. Meanwhile you've likely handed your enemies the 0-day you used to compromise them.

The capability necessary to launch these "attacks" is in the possession of every sophomore computer science student in the world. No amount of retaliation can fix that, we have to improve domestic computer security past the point that that is no longer the case.

And going on the offense is creating a precedent that gives our enemies the advantage. North Korea doesn't have anything worth compromising. We do. And we can't credibly object to state-sponsored attacks while engaging in them.

> You're just being sensationalist and melodramatic, and you're why places like HN become echo chambers of stupid and untenable ideas, with your worthless phrases like "murder and human rights violations", and "find a way to make them care".

So to be clear, are you claiming that no killings or human rights violations have occurred, or that they have but you think that's perfectly acceptable, or that you just don't care or think that anybody else should?