[gaius]

Indeed. While personally I think Tcl is a better language than either, professionally I jumped straight from Perl 4 to Python, bypassing Perl 5 altogether. The combination of needing rigid standards to make a codebase maintainable in big projects, with the dynamic nature of the language meaning that tool support for it was scarce, was a double whammy.

Now that I think about it, not even that big projects, teams of 10 or so devs, getting bogged down in language issues that Python simply didn't have (and no one even wished for tool support for, the was no need!)

[sukilot]

This sounds less like "perl 5" was a downgrade, and more like, "switching from sysadmin scripts to building enterprise projects (in ~2001-~2008 Amazon.com was written in Perl) made Perl less fun".

[biomimic]

Tcl is Fantastic.