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by driverdan 4181 days ago
> Public transit is terrible here

It sounds like you've never traveled outside the bay area. Muni + BART + Caltrain is far more than most cities have. What other cities have a system like Caltrain?

I'm not saying it's perfect, far from that. There are plenty of issues, especially with Muni. But it's not terrible.
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dragonwriter 4181 days ago
> It sounds like you've never traveled outside the bay area.

It seems to me that many urban areas in the US have better public transit than the Bay Area, and, even moreso, places in the developed world outside of the US tend to be better than the US.

Its true that the Bay Area's public transit is better than pretty much anywhere else in California, but that seems to be setting the bar low enough that you can trip over it.

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ecspike 4181 days ago
Agreed. Many cities on the East Coast have a Caltrain like system in the Amtrak Acela trains. DC, ATL, NYC, Baltimore all crush the system here.

Muni is terrible. Full stop.

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estebank 4181 days ago
> It sounds like you've never traveled outside the bay area.

Or that cmelbye has traveled outside the US.

> There are plenty of issues, especially with Muni. But it's not terrible.

I agree it's not as horrible as people make it out to be, but it is still in a pretty sad state. I've tried moving exclusively with public transport for the last month, but far too many times the Muni bus that was supposed to come just didn't for more than an hour, even though the sign said it would come 3 times in that time. And that's within SF, which is miles better than the rest of the bay area.

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