[forrestthewoods]

Growing up we had a family friend who taught at both the local high school and community college. He always said that at the CC he saw both extremes. On one hand yes the vast majority of students there didn't give a shit and it was just high school 2.0 to delay the real world.

But he also had the students who cared the most. The single working mothers. The students who desperately wanted a good education but couldn't afford it so they were taking the responsible Community College -> State University path.

[cafard]

An acquaintance taught at a NY state CC for a while after retiring from a state school in the Midwest. He said that he found a bimodal distribution in his classes: the highly motivated and well prepared on the one end, the unprepared or unmotivated on the other, and not that many between.