[darkarmani]

> We've even got it ingrained into our laws. Minimum wage for servers is barely nominal, and much less than what anyone else in the restaurant is making.

That's only if the tips don't make up the difference to get to minimum wage.

[jacalata]

That's the "ingrained in law" he was talking about. The law assumes tipping, else it wouldn't make sense to have that exception at all.

[darkarmani]

Ok, i agree and don't agree at the same time. The law does make accordance for tipping, but it doesn't assume tipping or it wouldn't require at least the "real" minimum wage.