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by rudolf0 4189 days ago
Zee/"ryanc" has indeed been involved in things like these for many years. HTP (Linode + much more) is just a small part of it.

I'm also very surprised it's taken this long for him to be arrested. He's completely brazen and has committed countless crimes despite knowing full well the general public and law enforcement know exactly who he is.

And if he truly was/is involved in carding, he probably won't get out for a while. I can hold some respect for blackhat groups, and hell, even a tiny, miniscule bit of respect for script kiddies like Lizard Squad, but once they get into financial fraud and theft my sympathy is gone.
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ryanlol 4188 days ago
Just because someone knows who I am does not mean that'll matter when it comes to proving things in court, which in real life isn't as easy as one might imagine.

>he probably won't get out for a while

If only I'd get sentenced in the first place.

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meowface 4188 days ago
If you get extradited, you're not going to have a fun time...
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ryanlol 4188 days ago
Well, I live in a country that will not extradite it's own citizens. And even if I somehow did manage to get extradited the US has a legal system where you'd actually have to prove a persons guilt, not just speculate it based on some IRC log of dubious origin.
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Maarten88 4188 days ago
Wow. You have not been following the news lately, and don't understand much about the us legal system.
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ryanlol 4188 days ago
That's a popular view, but I don't think that in real life it's an entirely correct one. At the very least those with money tend to be able to have a fair trial in the US.
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Maarten88 4188 days ago
I think you'd be facing the choice between a trial with a 500 year prison charge plus millions in damages and lawyer costs or accepting 10 to 15 years in prison avoiding the trial.

I hope you have lots of money to guarantee a fair trial, but anyway, I'd strongly suggest you to never ever travel anywhere near the US for the rest of your life.

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tacojuan 4189 days ago
The HTP dudes actually seemed sophisticated. Lizardsquad is just some dudes with a botnet.
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rudolf0 4189 days ago
Zee was apparently involved with both groups. He was likely the only skilled member of Lizard Squad.
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tacojuan 4189 days ago
Anywhere I can get more info on the HTP group? I was pretty fascinated by their zines at the time...
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ryanlol 4188 days ago
Unless there's ever any public court records, I doubt you'll find much (if any) good information.
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