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by joevandyk 4191 days ago
Why don't MRI developers use RubySpec?
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nateberkopec 4191 days ago
As linked in another comment, basically:

https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/7549#note-2

1. Matz is, and always will be BDFL. 2. The core Ruby team wants to talk in terms of C and MRI being the Ruby spec, not a third party/written RubySpec

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vidarh 4190 days ago
That's an absolutely terrifying attitude from a language developer....
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nateberkopec 4190 days ago
Is it? Python is exactly the same. It has no language spec (defined by its implementatation), and it has a BDFL who hasn't pushed for one.
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nedbat 4190 days ago
It would be good for Python to have more rigor in its definition. But the situation here doesn't have an analog in the Python world: there is no "PythonSpec" third-party test suite that is a) more complete than the official suite, b) exposing segfaults in previously working code, and c) going unused by the core developers.
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vidarh 4190 days ago
That other languages are equally badly specified is not a good argument for why it's not terrifying.

Then again, I don't care about Python. I do care about Ruby.

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Tobu 4191 days ago
They could always have their own fork/branch for upcoming releases of Ruby. It's not like the spec has to freeze the language.
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