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by tomjen3 4198 days ago
That is a really common idea here and a really arrogant one given how many SASS businesses wouldn't be possible without JS.

There were a time when the internet was about reading text, but that has long since passed. Without javascript you can't have a presentation overlayed with video (say of the presenter), you can't have real time anything, you can't comment without having to reload the page, etc. Look at how horrible the UX of HN is compared to reddit.

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You would still be able to enable it if you think it's relevant and trust the website. But when I end up on a news website reading an article, I see no justification for having all these scripts from all these different untrusted sources executing in the background.

If plain HTML isn't good enough, it just means we need a better HTML.

> That is a really common idea here and a really arrogant one given how many SASS businesses wouldn't be possible without JS.

Why is it arrogant? Surely "my site won't work with your browser settings" is not inherently an argument that I have to change my browser settings!

I mean, you can say "by browsing with JavaScript off, you kill the rich web", but I can also say "by refusing to make available a plain-text version of your site, you kill the information web" (with whatever appropriate buzzwords substituted for my ungainly ones). Many of the same arguments here could, I think, have explained why Flash is absolutely necessary for the modern web—until Apple's weight showed that it isn't.

I was with you until you said "Look at how horrible the UX of HN is compared to reddit." Admittedly, I rarely use reddit, but ... are you serious?