[pyre]

I somehow doubt that the indigenous peoples killed this many buffalo: http://cache.wists.com/thumbnails/7/37/7377f4d1d8add3298c08c...

But I'm open to the idea if you have more than just hand-waving to offer.

[cbd1984]

What, exactly, are you disagreeing with? The idea of a buffalo jump or my doubts that they used every part?

[coldtea]

Isn't it a little disingenious to only present these two things, and not the larger issue that matters more?

I, for one, disagree with the idea that the "buffalo jump" was all that prevalent and had a measurable impact, compared to the whites driving the buffalos to what they are now....

[cbd1984]

> I, for one, disagree with the idea that the "buffalo jump" was all that prevalent

I lived next to one. Try again.

[coldtea]

>I lived next to one. Try again.

So? That doesn't make it "prevalent", and even less makes it important next to white era's extinction of buffalo.

The only thing "I lived next to one" proves is that at least one existed. And we knew that already -- we also knew a lot more than one existed.

[pyre]

You are claiming that indigenous peoples killed more buffalo than "the whites." If this is true, then you are claiming that the indigenous peoples are the ones that drove the buffalo to near-extinction. I disagree with this assertion.

[cbd1984]

> You are claiming that indigenous peoples killed more buffalo than "the whites."

I am not.