[guylhem]

Indeed, I'm very pompous since I'm quite proud of what a modern linux install can do.

Sorry if I don't partake in this unwarranted Mac adoration.

Instead, I explain how to do the same on linux, and actual results when it's possible to do better (with among other things i915.fastboot=1)

$ systemd-analyze

Startup finished in 781ms (kernel) + 648ms (userspace) = 1.430s

Add ~1s to the above to start X with SNA if you prefer a graphic mode - and that's on a 2006-era laptop, a 8-years old machine, so color me unimpressed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkPad_X_Series#X60_Tablet

[TheSwordsman]

You do realize you're partaking in unwarranted Linux adoration, yes? Quite literal situation of pot calling the kettle black.

If this were truly about the merits and capabilities of Linux as a kernel and whichever userspace utilies you slap on, there would be no self-importance in your comments. However, it's more about showing off your accomplishments and trying to make yourself feel and seem superior.

I applaud you on your boot time. Sadly, it's not really applicable anywhere beyond the confines of your workstation.

Systemd is great and all for desktops, but I like keeping that complexity and invasiveness away from my servers.

[PhasmaFelis]

You despise "fanboys" and "adoration," but you're "proud" of an OS that (I'm guessing) you had nothing to do with the development of?

This, right here, is the problem. People choosing to attach their personal and tribal identity to an operating system. It doesn't matter what operating system it is, or how good it is. It's no more noble than doing the same thing with a football team or a comic book character.

[guylhem]

You're guessing wrong, even if I'm less involved in free software that I was a few years ago.

But indeed, I'm quite passionate about GNU/Linux and say the gluglug X60 since it's a unique offering to respect ones' freedoms: http://www.fsf.org/news/gluglug-x60-laptop-now-certified-to-... but I'm actively trying to improve boottime.

In case you are curious, here's a kernel patch integrating a few things I (badly) fixed to get such boot times, and an explanation: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.bios/80414

You see, it's a very small patch - yet it took some work. There's no magic, just effort.

And for those who think that's not replicable anywhere beyond the confines of my workstation, I intend to release very soon a debian based distribution with "proper" systemd support that gets me from grub to dwm in less than 2 seconds instead of 3s, kernel and systemd time included, on the X60 (I had some inspiration tonight!!)

It's a work-in-progress, it could be improved on the non-tablet version, but it's still something that's possible right now on 8-years old hardware. That's what I call hacking.

For me, free software is not a tribal identity. It's very practical, with great benefits far beyond fast boot times.

Things change because people work on them, and yes they're usually proud of their work, sorry about that. Pride is part of hacking.

I must say I have been quite surprised by the general tone of this thread, including the ad-hominem attacks ("Seems he is working for Intel on CoreOS") on the OP that was trying to explain stuff. Many people don't post content, they just criticize.

[PhasmaFelis]

That's good that you're contributing to free software. I like free software, you understand. But your sneering at "fanboys," your acting like someone's choice of operating system is a moral stance rather than a matter of convenience and personal preference, still says that you are not being as rational as you think you are. Only fanboys accuse people of being fanboys. Your choice to use free software may not be a tribal identity, but your choice to mock people who don't absolutely is.

[ginko]

>acting like someone's choice of operating system is a moral stance

It certainly is when you pick a free software/open source OS over a proprietary one.

[PhasmaFelis]

> It certainly is when you pick a free software/open source OS over a proprietary one.

A whole lot of people have convinced themselves that it is, at least. I'm not quite ready to accept that using the wrong operating system makes you a bad person. I'm kind of amazed that I even have to say that.

[rconti]

It's throwing around annoying editorials like "unwarranted" every time it doesn't apply to what you're excited about, and not expecting others to do same.

You're the kind of person who feels they're fighting the good fight and the whole world is against them, proud of having this unpopular opinion that nobody agrees with.

Yes, you're a special snowflake.

It's lame.