[MichaelCrawford]

I don't start flame wars in meetings. That's because I don't accept offers from companies that I don't respect.

What I'm saying is that hiring managers often tell me I won't fit the company culture, as a direct result of seeing me in person, rather than communicating via email or telephone.

[devopsproject]

> I don't start flame wars in meetings

> I often get into flame wars during my interview

Make up your mind and then get back to me

[MichaelCrawford]

I already did.

What I just said is that I don't accept offers from managers that I regard as idiots.

When I am actually working for a firm, I am always the consummate professional.

[devopsproject]

I'm suggesting it is your attitude and not your age but you seem to be dead set on being right.

[MichaelCrawford]

How can it be my attitude, when the age discrimination is made plainly apparent before I even speak?

[devopsproject]

How is made plainly apparent?

[MichaelCrawford]

The interviewer uses what are known, with reference to the topic of discrimination, as "code words".

For example, a close friend who was one of the pioneers of the video game industry, one of Atari's very first game designers, once interviewed to be a Games Evangelist for Apple. At the time, Apple had not done anything to promote Macintosh games, at least not for quite a long time.

My friend was dead certain he'd get an offer, but the hiring manager told my friend that he "looked tired" and so would not be suitable for what in reality is a marketing position.

I myself look tired all the time; there's not a whole lot I can do about that. That doesn't mean that I really _am_ tired.

The other way that it's made plainly apparent, is that I talk just like a surfer dude, so I sound quite young over the phone. The way others respond to me over the phone is quite different from the way they speak to me when they see me in person.