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by mathattack 4201 days ago
At my Uni the assumption was that you didn't need to know before you started, but the upkick in 2nd year classes was very difficult, and you'd wind up with a few "15+ hours of non-class work per week" simultaneously. So most of the top students had programmed before, but there were a couple very talented outliers who just had an aptitude for it. (Smart plus no bad habits plus work ethic)