[vlorch]

...though Kohana 'suggests' some good practices, it doesn't force anything. So its still possible to work on a project where a lot of the 'wtf' php allows to happen still come up, albeit just inside a more sensible way of organizing things. The good intentions of your fellow developer still dictate the wtfs-per-minute..

[iisbum]

This is not a issue isolated to Kohana and PHP, its affects all languages and frameworks.