[patrickaljord]

> that's a great deal of french bashing

Can we stop with this? I'm tired of French people always responding to any kind of critics with the "French bashing" strawman. I'm French myself by the way.

> and government grants are here too to help

Most entrepreneurs don't want the government to help, they want the government to stay out of the way. A concept many of my fellow French have a hard time understanding the benefits.

[madlag]

I can assure you that you will want the government to help, especially when you don't have any money to start your business. You should ask a few entrepreneurs about this.

[patrickaljord]

I am an entrepreneur and I don't want the government's help. The government is the new Church here and I want out.

[madlag]

So you choose to suffer the bad sides of the government without taking any advantage from it ? You are free to do so, but is it really the wisest solution when you are just looking for a solution to survive ? And isn't it a form of church too, to refuse anything coming from the government ? (I am not from any church, if you're asking)

[patrickaljord]

> And isn't it a form of church too, to refuse anything coming from the government ?

I refuse help from any kind of church, I like to call this Freedom :)

> (I am not from any church, if you're asking)

Except for the government.