[frowaway001]

If you consider Wikipedia a good example of what PHP can do, we have irreconcilably different quality standards.

I think the technical debt of PHP is a huge reason why development of the software behind Wikipedia hasn't fixed any of the huge issues in the last 5 years.

[RyanMcGreal]

I cite Wikipedia as an example of a successful website built with PHP, not necessarily as an example of a well-designed site.

You don't need to convince me that PHP is a clunky, unpleasant language. My point is that there are still legitimate reasons to choose it.

[hobarrera]

The fact that there are successful website implemente in PHP is not a legitimate reason to choose it.