[hnnewguy]

>There's also a tendency for people to think they're good people and not realize how they're being mean. Criminals are good at this.

"Criminals" are also good at being mistaken as mean people when they are really good.

[busterarm]

I don't disagree with this. Organized crime actually serves a legitimate community function in its early stages usually. They always get their hands dirty.

Is that really someone that you'd want to emulate though?

You could make the case that Freeway Rick Ross is a really nice guy because he never had to use violence, but he still sold crack to people.

[hnnewguy]

>You could make the case that Freeway Rick Ross is a really nice guy

Good point. Is he "mean" or not? More curiously, is he "successful" or not?