[Kociub]

As much as I agree that J2EE is bloated, the fact that you can migrate a project to a less bloated stack and still run it proves nothing. The whole point of the whole "bloatiness" is so that supporting/changing the system in the the long run will be faster, easier, and cheaper.

[thecopy]

The question is if the 5x productivity boost in-between the changes in the system yields more value or not. Which I believe it does.