[cryoshon]

The free market favors the wealth of corporations at the detriment of individual people.

The tech companies would absolutely love it if they could get away with paying their workers as little as the developing countries do; decreasing wages results in increased profits, which are the only thing that matter to them.

I don't see a reason why we have to abide by their greed when we have so much to lose and nothing to gain.

[NhanH]

Your point is well taken, but that doesn't seems to be what the GP was saying.

You're essentially advocating to favors one set of people over another set of people. Which the line between two sets being drawn by luck.

[icebraining]

nothing to gain.

Except for those foreigners who get much higher salaries than at home, plus their whole families and communities thanks to remittances.

[ElComradio]

Do you have any disposable income? You can pick somebody who did not get approved for H1B and send some money to his family each month. You don't need to wait for him to get a job in SV. Start now.

[icebraining]

I make $15k/year in a western country, how much disposable income do you think I have?

In any case, I don't see why should I pay for someone else's discrimination.

[talmand]

But we can easily reverse that. What about the local that now has to accept lower wages at home, which also affects their whole families and communities?

[LLWM]

They also have lower costs so their lower wages go further. They might be slightly worse off on the balance, but it's outweighed by the benefits those lower costs bring to everyone else. It also frees them up for other pursuits. It's really no different from any other technological advancement that put people out of work.

[icebraining]

What about them?

[talmand]

I can see from this response and the other you made, you're not really willing to discuss this in any objective manner. It seems you have issues that go deeper than just this simple discussion. I hope you manage to work them out and good luck to you.

[icebraining]

Nope, no issues, just disagreement. The other post was simply responding to tone; not very mature, I admit, but I find that line of reasoning dishonest.

I believe what you perceive as issues is just the fact that you're expecting people to argue it as a simple policy, while I believe that it's an ethical question. That said, I'll suggest that three shorts posts is a rather small sample to psychoanalyze someone.

[talmand]

Fair statement.

[cylinder]

Your argument in favor of eased immigration to the US is that foreigners will benefit?

[kazagistar]

Yes. Just like the argument for democracy is that peasants will benefit (at possible cost to nobles). Just like the arument for racial desegregation is that black people will benefit (while possibly inconveniencing white people).

No one said freedom and equality were easy. The privalaged lose their advantages.