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by skywhopper 4236 days ago
These ideas may be fun to think about, but ultimately they're meaningless. It's certainly not a new idea that some being on another plane of existence brought our universe into being on a whim, and can modify the parameters of its existence at will.

If that's so, it's highly unlikely we'll be able to poke any holes in it. Nor is there any reason to believe our memories or any of history is real. Maybe scientists have poked holes in the simulation a million times, and each time, the supreme Code Monkey suspends the simulation, fixes the bug, and rolls back the state to before the hole was poked.

For that matter, it's silly to believe that our puny existence has even been noticed by whoever spun up the entire Universe.

Most of the questions that this premise supposedly solves are mostly based on fallacious reasoning. Why is the universe fine-tuned for us? What are the chances of this specific universe? How likely is it that intelligent life exists on our planet? You may as well ask what are the chances of your particular DNA sequence. Just because your specific genetic code is extremely unlikely doesn't mean it's impossible that you exist.

Ultimately, such an idea only raises more questions. So, say we are in a simulation. Now, how does the "real" world work? Where did it come from? How do we know it isn't a simulation?

If these are the answers that make the most sense to you, you've stumbled down the wrong path, and it's time to take a fresh look at the world.

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> If that's so, it's highly unlikely we'll be able to poke any holes in it. Nor is there any reason to believe our memories or any of history is real. Maybe scientists have poked holes in the simulation a million times, and each time, the supreme Code Monkey suspends the simulation, fixes the bug, and rolls back the state to before the hole was poked

I suggest you track down and read the Asimov short story "The Last Answer". I think you will enjoy it. It deals with a similar situation to what you describe, although not quite in the context of a universe simulation.

I agree that this premise is very short sighted. Why would a universe of such apparent magnitude be created just so some post-humans could simulate us humans? Who even thinks that? (apparently most simulationists)

In my opinion it's obvious that some intelligent life form decided it would like to create a simulation where life and other interesting behaviour could emerge.

Well, at least I know that I (and many others) would do that if/when we have the means to do so!

Of course, we could never simulate our universe to the same detail and scale (or even close..) within itself. We would have to create a more modest simulation.

So, they could have a highly logical argument for us being in a simulation, but instead they put the words "ancestor simulation" in it. How human of use, once again, thinking the sun spins around the earth!

> Now, how does the "real" world work? Where did it come from? How do we know it isn't a simulation?

That's very easy to answer. Our parent "world" is most likely also a simulation! And so on and forth... ( https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5389450/1/The_Finale_of_the_Ult... )

Now the real question is.. Who spawned the first simulation? And where the F*CK did they come from.

This wont help our life on the day to day, but why would you say people who think about these subject should take a fresh look at the world? For those who like to think deep, this is the most interesting subject there is.

No particular reason you couldn't side-channel the universe.