[axotty]

It's takes a trivial amount of time to set up these layouts on most machines.

I agree that good typing skills do not necessarily make you a more productive programmer. But I do find that it is a skill that compliments other programming skills nicely. It's also nice for countless other parts of my workflow that do not include programming.

[ibebrett]

let me put it this way. i have never met a programmer who's productivity was at all based on their typing speed.

[axotty]

I think you misunderstood me. I never claimed anything like that. In fact I suggested most of the benefits of touch typing are not related to programming.

That being said, you will never know the benefits of touch typing if you can't touch type. You seem to be threatened by the thought of it being a valuable skill so I won't try to convince you otherwise.

[ibebrett]

i can touch type just fine. I'm not threatened by the concept of touch typing, I am making the case that its a waste of time to try and learn to touch type another keyboard map. While it may have some benefit, there are literally thousands of things you can do that will be much more useful than learning to touch type dvorak.

[axotty]

We've come full circle to my original reply to you. If you are going to learn to touch type you are starting from zero with QWERTY anyways so using a new layout wouldn't add any additional time.

> there are literally thousands of things you can do that will be much more useful than learning to touch type dvorak.

You could say this about any skill or hobby. You are not the arbiter of usefulness. Plenty of people have derived utility from learning to touch type Dvorak or Colemak. You're writing them off out of pure ignorance.