[jagawhowho]

Ethics prevent a real study where you lock the fatties in a cage and accurately measure the calories eaten.

Fatties lie like a pro when it comes to dieting.

[prostoalex]

And yet when calorie restriction is done through restricting carbohydrates, the results are much more convincing http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/

[toomuchtodo]

And if PubMed isn't your cup of tea, just head over to https://www.reddit.com/r/keto, unless you think those ~125K subreddit members are just lying.

Not all calories are the same. I myself lost almost 40lbs on the keto diet (~200 to start, now around 160lbs). 31, male, sedentary IT worker. NO EXERCISE. I eat everything except carbs (fruit, beer, anything with sugars).

[monksy]

Beer and alcohol has quite a lot of sugar.

[jeremysmyth]

Alcohol doesn't contain sugar. Rather, it replaces glucose in the blood and can be used directly as a fuel without any conversion.

This is unlike in low-carb diets, where fat must be converted to a fuel (via gluconeogenesis) before cells can use it as energy, and this conversion itself takes energy.

Effectively, alcohol reduces the benefit of low-carb diets but doesn't necessarily increase the insulin response as would a high-sugar diet.

[toomuchtodo]

My typing mistake. Those items I listed were what I don't eat.

Beer has quite a bit of sugar, but hard alcohols do not.

http://www.thespartanwarrior.com/post/6355061720/lowcarbvsal...