[VexXtreme]

They even seem to have a subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkEnlightenment/

The whole "ideology" is basically just fascism and institutional racism dressed up as something else. Despicable. I would never use any software from some Hitler-reboot type of person. Don't empower and feed such people. They are usually narcissistic megalomaniacs who think they are fit to rule and tyrannize others.

[lexcorvus]

Before accusing someone of being a "Hitler-reboot type of person", perhaps you should, you know, actually read what they have to say about Hitler. For example:

Since most people are neither historians nor philosophers, the fact that Hitler was on the extreme Right, and this Reaction is also on the extreme Right, raises some natural concerns. Again: the only way to face these concerns is to (a) provide a complete engineering explanation of Hitler, and (b) include an effective anti-Hitler device in our design.

—Mencius Moldbug, http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2009/09/gentle-...

In other words, an explicit design goal is to avoid Hitler-like outcomes (because, duh). Thus, the accusation that he's a "Hitler-reboot type of person" reflects either simple ignorance—which you can fix by doing a little reading—or outright mendacity—for which, I'm afraid, there may be no cure.

[VexXtreme]

I mean look, I understand what the philosophy is about, and I think it would never work in the real world. We've learned time and again that entrusting a lot of executive power to one person is a horrible idea - extremely exploitable and subject to corruption.

Looks almost like a product of a deranged autistic mind. I have no interest in such asinine "philosophies".

[Padding]

> I have no interest in such asinine "philosophies".

I bet no one does .. the real issue is how to decide on what is "asinine". After all, why are your views and beliefs any more valid than any one else's?

[VexXtreme]

Normally I'd just tell you that I don't subscribe to moral and philosophical relativism, but for the sake of this discussion, I will oblige in explaining further.

First off, what is the definition of valid and correct? What is the metric that makes a certain belief more "valid" than some other belief? Well, over the millennia, we humans have arrived to certain definitions of what's good and what's bad in the context of preserving life, civilization, society and liberty. In that sense, things that harm those concepts can be defined as bad and those that further those goals are good. History has shown, time and again, that empowering one person with a lot of executive power inevitably leads to tyranny, oppression, genocide, slavery and other completely horrible things that we seem to have been able to get rid of (more or less).

So when someone rejects thousands of years of historical evidence as to what happens with such regimes and where they eventually lead, and proposes instating one again, I can only call it either asinine (if the author is well-intentioned) or evil (if they simply want power over others).

In more practical terms, liberty, self-determination and self-ownership are sacrosanct to a lot of people. In order to take those things away, you will need a lot of people, guns and body bags.

[niels_olson]

What if his engineering concern with Hitler is the the mode of failure?

[loqi]

Would you use software from some anti-gay-marriage person? Do these types of policies sound at all pathological to you upon further reflection?