[RivieraKid]

> Or at least I think `+(u, v)` or `u + v`, is more natural then `u.plus(v)` or `u.+(v)`

I definitely agree with that, I said that object.method() style is often more natural. Typically when you have an object with some internal state and you want to send a message to it that will change its state. For example: threadPool.run(command) feels more natural than run(thread_pool, command).

[jghn]

It's more natural to you (and to be fair, most programmers who have used OOP languages) purely because you're used to languages which work that way.

[andreasvc]

No, it is not some arbitrary choice, it confirms to the [second] most dominant word order in natural languages: subject-verb-object.

[canjobear]

In fact, the most common word order in natural languages is subject-object-verb.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subject%E2%80%93object%E2%80%9...

But SVO is a close second, and certainly more common than verb-subject-object (the equivalent of `function(arg1, arg2)`).

[RivieraKid]

> purely because you're used to languages which work that way.

You don't know that. I think that for people new to programming both styles can be natural, depending on the specific situation.

[jghn]

I agree, and that was largely my point.

People discuss certain styles as being more natural, but in nearly every case (including this syntactical debate) I assert that it is solely due to what the most mainstream languages do and thus what people are more used to seeing.

That's not the same as being natural