[PinguTS]

Another device connected to the cloud sending data to the cloud and this time also sound. It was already creepy the learn that Netatmo, a _weather_ station, is recording sound. Because the company released sound profiles from the games during the FIFA world championship mapped to countries, regions. As they said, there is only a loudness sensor integrated.

But this time it is a real microphone. That makes it another "smart" device to hack in to, to be used by 3 letter agencies.

I know there are webcams. But then people know. I work with many non-tech people and engineers from different companies. I have seens, that the majority is gluing the integrated webcams. Even in my own company, almost everybody has glued the webcam.

[dkyc]

Please read what's on the site: "Nothing is recorded or sent across the network. Peace of mind, without giving up on privacy."

I appreaciate your privacy concerns, but not every device is the same. We are in an early stage of such cloud-based "smart devices", so we have to be careful as there are great conceptual differences between different products.

[PinguTS]

As an embedded engineer myself working in industrial applications as well as automotive and later of the to for the authorities, I know what is possible and what not.

The things, as I would design it and as others like Nest is doing it, those devices support silent updates to provide a "great and seeming-less customer experience". But here is the crux, you see. (;

[VLM]

I have another startup idea free for anyone to take and run with.

A simple little box that eats 5V from a USB connection or PoE or whatever and it limits bandwidth to a long term average of perhaps 0.3K. Lets call it 300 baud for old times sake because my first modem was one of the first commercial direct connect 300 baud modems in the early 80s. Go ahead NSA, try to listen to me, my little bandwidth limiting firewall will never speak faster than 300 baud on average so you best be very patient while spying on me for your corporate customers or just to be creepy.

Obviously does nothing for wifi unless you limit your whole wifi connection. Whoops. I'd assume something like this is wired anyway, I don't want to replace batteries every week.

I would also sell one that limits to just a little slower than the slowest youtube video feed with a switch, so during "homework hours" the kids can plagarize wikipedia all they want but can't watch minecraft or unboxing videos on youtube.

I'd like to see a nice web front panel as first choice or as second choice an app, that does some limited sniffy and analysis, and maybe blocking. So if my smart TV suddenly starts talking to .RU or I simply don't want it talking to the mfgr anymore, then I can stop it.

[PinguTS]

I think, you never heard of Snowden?

The people from Google where also pretty sure, that their property was safe, until proved otherwise.

I think, you knew that Netatmo, a _weather_ station, was recording loudness and the company behind was able to map those data out.

I think, you knew that LG TVs are phoning home and basically reporting every single file of the USB stick you put in into your TV.

I have seen lots of such things. Yes, I am available at different security conference through out the year.

[travisp]

While I understand your concern, it doesn't seem like they are actually sending the sound back across the network, which makes it substantially safer than things like Dropcam, which many people have installed and running in their homes.