[jordonwii]

Why do you think of those as negatives of the proposition itself? Those seem like arguments that it perhaps won't be as effective as supporters might hope, but not that the proposition itself is flawed.

(I'm actually unsure how I feel about the proposition at this point, so I'm just curious to hear some more discussion about it.)

[d2vid]

It just feels too much like a symbolic victory rather than actual progress. I think it falls into the same category as the plastic bag ban - bags are a very small component of overall trash, but they're highly visible so let's ban them.

[wpietri]

Who said they were about reducing total landfill volume? My understanding is that they're mainly about reducing litter. Which they've certainly done in my city.

[malandrew]

It always takes one issue and one municipality at a time to make progress. Is marijuana decriminalization in Colorado a symbolic victory because people in the surrounding states and even here in California haven't yet experienced decriminalization.

Wouldn't if be great if we can one day get back to having robotic milkmen deliver milk in re-usable bottles?

[cglee]

This is how progress happens, one small experiment at a time.