[Too]

Apart from the things other people here already mentioned. The speakers are the worst i have ever heard. I don't have high demands on laptop speakers to start with but this is way below any standards. Music you can just forget about and even in voip calls it's hard to hear what people are saying. And even when they are off they are bad! They keep sending out a faint white static noise, i first thought it's the fan but it's actually the speakers. Lenovos "solution" to this problem was to update the driver and turn off the spekers completely if there's been no sound for the past 5 seconds. Really annoying, any time you open a folder in explorer and the click sound plays it sounds like the fan turns on and then off again, same with intermediate IM notifications, i have to keep my laptop on mute because of this. So the speakers are useless for music, voip and notifications, what usage scenario is left? why even put them in?

[busterarm]

I forgot about this! Oh yeah. Their headphone jack is pretty flimsy too, but it seems to be on most laptops. I'm pretty much resigned to using a USB sound card/headphone amp these days.

[TillE]

> Their headphone jack is pretty flimsy too

I really can't stand those. I've had the headphone jacks on two separate high-end Android phones go from crackly to completely unusable, while my ancient iPod nano is still rock solid after years of heavy use.

A decent 3.5mm jack is not an expensive part, but so many manufacturers seem to opt for the cheap garbage that doesn't actually work.

[serf]

and on top of that most thinkpads have switched to integrated mic/headphone combo jacks rather than separate ports.

it's old fashioned, but I prefer them to be separated.