[BorisMelnik]

Yikes - if Microsoft would just focus on what they are doing right, and perfecting that (Windows, MSDN, etc) they might have a chance at avoiding these constant and public "fails." I understand every enterprise level business needs to try new things, but it really just seems as thought they need to leave mobile / tablets alone as hard as it may be for them to hear until they have an MVP that murders it and people can't wait for.

[ivraatiems]

In fairness, it sounds like this was Asus, not Microsoft's fault.

[huhtenberg]

Microsoft's fault here is that they haven't tested products that they are selling in the own Store. Or they have, they saw the issues and they decided to go with the selling anyways. It's a logistical/delivery issue on the Store end, but it does reflect badly on Microsoft as a whole.

[msh]

Microsoft sold it as a signature device, so it's just as much their fault.

[wfjackson]

Again, all it means is that it's OEM crapware free.

[Brian-Puccio]

So if the OEM didn't install anything aside from a completely standard (albeit old) Windows 8 install, then this is Microsoft's intended behavior of Windows? What else would cause any issues with the OS out-of-the-box aside from OS problems if the OEM didn't add anything?

[wfjackson]

Drivers.

[Brian-Puccio]

So everyone else talking about how they nuke the OEM install and do a clean install of retail Win8 aren't using the drivers from the OEM, but the standard MS drivers? I guess then my question is "why aren't the world's shittiest drivers written by the OEM that affect system stability and performance considered OEM bloatware when the MS drivers work just fine?".

[mikeash]

It's Microsoft's fault that this is all it means. "Signature" could (and IMO should) mean that they've worked with the OEM to ensure everything works well and stuff is up to date. If Microsoft decided that Signature just means "slightly less crappy than usual" then that's their own fault.

[stinos]

avoiding these constant and public "fails."

Not sure that is possible (1), let alone it would help much (2).

(1) From all OS'es installable on a whole range of hardware devices and usable by hordes of different types of users I don't think I have ever met one that hasn't had a single problem.

(2) Even if there were 1 billion cases in which everything was ok, the one case where there was a fail would still be spread out all over the media. Like this one.