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by ethomson 4245 days ago
Do you have a positive experience with CoApp? Mine has been overwhelmingly negative: it does not appear to work, does not appear to be maintained and does not appear to be supported.

I've been trying to get somebody to provide even a little bit of support for Native Nuget packages via CoApp for months: http://stackoverflow.com/q/24331880/729881
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berdario 4244 days ago
I'm afraid to say that I haven't had a positive experience either, but I was just interested in CoApp out of curiosity: I tried to see if it was doable to use it to package pure Python (or other interpreters) libraries.

Obviously it was not ready yet, but I wasn't really let down: I seldom use Windows, so I don't have any real need for it, and my perception was that with some more months/years it would get there.

But CoApp and OneGet are worthwhile endeavors, so I'm cautiously optimistic that they'll eventually build something that can make software installation on Windows less painful

PS: uh, I just realized that you're a Microsoft developer as well (just like Garret Serack)... is it so difficult to get hold of him even inside the same company? (I don't know... maybe you're actually on different sides of the ocean, and this would make the matter quite a bit more complicated)

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ethomson 4244 days ago
I'm also very optimistic about OneGet. I do think it's a worthwhile endeavor (and I think CoApp is worthwhile.) My frustration comes when Microsoft builds a technology and gives it a web page and open sources it and... promptly ignores it.

I hope my criticisms of CoApp / Native Nuget did not transfer to a criticism of OneGet - my suspicion is that CoApp is abandoned simply because Garrett doesn't have time to both work one CoApp and OneGet. (It's also possible that OneGet deprecates CoApp.)

Certainly I understand all these problems - as you note, I am a Microsoftie as well, so I'm very familiar with having too much to do and not enough time to do it - and I've abandoned a few projects myself. But I'm not happy about that.

As for your question about being at Microsoft: I'm not across the ocean but I do happen to be on the other side of the country. I suspect I could have gotten a reply if I sent an email from my microsoft.com account (even if that reply was "sorry, don't have time") but I sort of hate throwing that around since it feels unfair to the rest of the community trying to use it.

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slavik81 4244 days ago
> It's also possible that OneGet deprecates CoApp.

That sounds like it's the case: "CoApp's features are going into OneGet, WiX, NuGet and Chocolatey. I had the opportunity to take this approach to get it in-box OS, I figured that was worth it."

http://coapp.org/news/2013-10-02-State-of-CoApp.html#disqus_...

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