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by nmjohn 4250 days ago
The guns drawn are the least of my concern [0] - officer safety is important too.

My concern is the fact they are threatening him for wanting his rights maintained and due process followed.

[0]: I'm not saying it's not an issue, just not what I'm focused on in this comment.

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Should one also call in the SWAT team when investigating if barbers have a license? Officer safety and all.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/09/19/f...

This line is important-

>So a level of force once reserved for hostage situations, bank robberies and active shooters is now being used on low-level drug offenders, people suspected of white-collar crimes, people who have unkempt property and to make sure the local bar is properly labeling its beer.

Now think about this - when the police go in a situation guns drawn when there isn't a reason to believe there would be a real threat to personal safety the THEY are being the aggressor and potentially escalating the situation. Which creates danger when there wouldnt otherwise be. Officers are supposed to protect the public, not threaten it. Eventually the police's relationship with the public degrades to a point that officer safety is now actually in much more jeopardy.

Respect is a two way street.

Police officers quest for safety also vastly increases the risks of unintentionally harming the people in the places they raid - people that are innocent until proven guilt, and people who are often not directly involved in the crime.

Most importantly it harms the respect and dignity of the society they are protecting. No non-threatening person should ever have AR-15s pointed at their heads, screamed at, their faces pushed into the ground, and handcuffed regardless of their potential criminality. Especially when the whole investigation is for non-violent crimes.

This hostility towards everyone generates more hostility and doesn't make any society more civilized and respectable - which is the over-arching intention of law and order.

'cause sometimes two-year olds are packing

http://www.salon.com/2014/06/24/a_swat_team_blew_a_hole_in_m...

Jesus Christ... how can that be acceptable? How can there be no punishment for the idiots that flashbanged a family? It's reprehensible...
Not that it helps at all, but if this is the same case, the police claimed the crib was positioned to block the door. So given a situation where the police thought they were after "evil" drug dealers, and they encountered something blocking the door, it's slightly less absurd sounding.

It's still utterly disgusting, from the drug laws down to the police themselves.

why would you even bother repeating what the police claim or thought?