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by NateDad 4256 days ago
It seems like quite a leap of faith to assume a significant portion of people complaining about something on the internet have actually tried it. Most complaints about Go tend to show the opposite. For example "it doesn't take long to run into your first interface{}"... what? Sure it does. If you're attempting to write Go like Go (and not trying to write Go like Java/C#/Haskell/whatever) then you can code for a very long time without hitting your first interface{}.
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Jare 4256 days ago
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that interface{} is a terrible thing. I spent a decade writing assembly language and then just as much in C and C++ before templates were usable, I know generics are far from essential and that a little controlled type unsafety is not a huge problem in practice. But:

> you can code for a very long time without hitting your first interface{}

Negroni, a popular and self-appointedly idiomatic library: https://github.com/codegangsta/negroni/blob/master/negroni_t...

    func expect(t *testing.T, a interface{}, b interface{})
    func refute(t *testing.T, a interface{}, b interface{})
Ok, that's just for testing - it's not unusual to have to go off path to be able to test your code. How about Google's own standardized idiom for production code? https://blog.golang.org/context

    Value(key interface{}) interface{}
Or Go's own standard library? http://golang.org/pkg/encoding/json/

    func Marshal(v interface{}) ([]byte, error)
    func MarshalIndent(v interface{}, prefix, indent string) ([]byte, error)
    func Unmarshal(data []byte, v interface{}) error
No, it does not take such a long time.
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NateDad 4255 days ago
The context example is the only one of these that is really a valid example - and that is not something you would normally run into. I've never seen that idiom in code outside of google, so I wouldn't even call it idiomatic, regardless of the fact that it's posted on the Go blog. I'm actually sort of surprised they even posted it there.

The JSON package is handling automatic marshalling of objects to and from a textual format - of course it has to be outside the scope of normal code.

When I said "you can code for a very long time without hitting your first interface{}", I meant in code you write. It's very rare to need interface{} in your own code. Some very specialized packages (like JSON) need it, and yes, sometimes helper functions for testing need it. But for regular production code? No. If you find yourself reaching for interface{} more than extremely rarely in your code, you're probably doing something wrong.

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