[GrantS]

To each his own, but I just want to point out that your examples of web searches and email require that SOME third party be involved because they are, by definition, attempts to reach a computer somewhere else on the internet.

In contrast, searching the local files on one's own computer or launching applications on one's own computer are private, local events that need not be shared with any third party.

Inherently private stuff just happens to leak out into the world now because Spotlight does web search too.

[deadweight3]

Everything you put on your computer should be assumed to be public the moment you connect to the internet. With air gap jump technology starting to become proven, you should assume that all digital content is public. To think otherwise is hubris and stupidity all wrapped up with a tiny little bow. Every company and government agency has been compromised to one degree or another, and targeted attacks are 100% effective given even slight competence on the part of the hacker. I've been around since before the modem, I've seen everyone hacked.

Regardless, it doesn't matter. It's simply ignorant to bitch about this, when the NSA literally intercepts all of this and exploits or introduces exploits into the software you use. This is fact. Apple at it's worst will present you an advertisement, big fucking whoop. Seriously, what is the risk? Annoyance? The NSA can wrap you around a pole and make it appear you were snorting 12kilos of coke a day. I am quite literally baffled by the sentiment on HN when I see people up in arms over convenience like this trumped up as if it were in violation of your rights. They added a 'learn more' link and explain what is going on. Yet the same people simply ignore the actual threat, repeatedly. Cowards.

Keep fighting them windmills. Because the real enemy fights back.

[csirac2]

Is this where we are now? Patting Apple & friends on the back for sneaking in just a little bit more data scrapage, because surely the only people who think they have a choice are just idiots?

I'd rather be an idiot who gets angry about his TV phoning home to report every DVD and .avi file I've played (in the clear, for no apparent reason: there are no ads, recommendations or features of any kind on the set itself) than a defeatist who equates the futility of circumventing state surveillance with the futility of paying attention to one's outbound internet traffic.

I should have an active choice in how and who I expose my data. If LGe, Apple and friends can't be bothered asking people if they actually want their habits recorded, let alone bother to encrypt said data, expectations on storing, securing and using that data aren't exactly high.

It's not an irrational thing to weight the risk of state surveillance rummaging through my gmail to be a little less than some stupid home computer/router/NAS "feature" exploding and blowing me wide open to identify theft and financial fraud.

[deadweight3]

You do have a choice, thats why there is the ugly text with the learn more link. They really went out of their way to ensure you were informed. Anything less than acknowledgement stinks too much of either the tech cults, or unfounded paranoia. The first icon presented is Safari, so if you don't read and don't look at icons, then okay... But that's not Apples problem. If it's a feature you don't want to use, don't use it, you can turn it off without a python scripts. I tire of these stupid games.

Theft and financia fraud? Do you search for you account numbers and passwords in spotlight???

[csirac2]

What prompted me to reply was when you said "Regardless, it doesn't matter. It's simply ignorant to bitch about this, when the NSA literally intercepts all of this and exploits or introduces exploits into the software you use".

When RealPlayer was grilled for bundling spyware which harvested the exact same data, why did their excuses ("hey we mentioned this in the EULA, plus you could've scrolled through the features and disabled it at install-time") not create the same placated reactions Apple seems to be achieving here?

"Opt-out of some part of this avalanche of b.s. information-leaking features serving little to zero actual benefit to the user" has always been a stupid, sleazy trend to monetize the very basics of computing and whilst I respect that most people don't give a damn and/or don't have the energy to give a damn, it's a user-hostile design pattern.