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by dangrossman 4260 days ago
Here's the actual relevant text from the bill [1]:

> upon notification of claimed infringement as described in subsection (c)(3), responds expeditiously to remove, or disable access to, the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity

Immediately contacting the repository owner, and asking them to remove the content themselves within a short window of time, sounds like an expeditious response to my non-lawyer ears.

One nitpick as well:

> it is safe from any claims that it is itself in violation of the DMCA

§ 512 of the DMCA provides for immunity from liability for breaking another law, the copyright act. It's not "violating the DMCA", and service providers do not have to take advantage of § 512 safe harbor provisions if they don't want the benefits of doing so. Without this safe harbor, the service provider could be guilty of infringing the copyright of whomevers' property they're distributing copies of on behalf of their user. If they _voluntarily_ opt to meet the § 512 requirements by expeditiously taking down content, then they can't be held liable for that illegal act, even though it did happen.

1: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/512

2 comments

"Immediately contacting the repository owner, and asking them to remove the content themselves within a short window of time, sounds like an expeditious response to my non-lawyer ears.

Except, uh, you cut out the object of this sentence, which is the service provider, not the user.

That is, github, not the user, is supposed to be the person responding expeditiously to remove. Contacting someone is neither "removing" nor "disabling access".

The law is simply not ambiguous here, and github trying to play this game is not likely to go well in an actual court, as much as i'd like it to be the case (i know other companies have been threatened on exactly this point before).

If the user doesn't do it themselves within that short window, then GitHub has to. Every web hosting company I've worked with in the last 10 years has forwarded DMCA notices on to customers. They only disable a server if you don't handle the removal yourself. I don't think GitHub is trying anything new here.
"If the user doesn't do it themselves within that short window, then GitHub has to."

It sounded like you were claiming otherwise, saying that asking the user is acting expeditiously "enough", and that they can then "not remove" or slow down removal.

If you aren't claiming that, then we have no argument :)

But as long as Github still removes the content in a reasonable time period if the user hasn't, aren't they still in compliance?
reasonable is not the right word. If they do so "expeditiously", then yes. But that is not the same as a "reasonable" amount of time.
I think it generally sounds like a good thing too. I'm just wondering if rights-holders and courts will end up agreeing.

Thanks for the latter clarification.