[dubfan]

I always thought it was about "not being a bad person", a concept which predates feminism by a few millennia.

[scott_s]

I feel you are being disingenuous in your disagreement - that you're deliberately trying to be combative as opposed to engaging in honest discussion.

Clearly, goals can belong in several umbrella categories at the same time. Most people would agree that "not harassing women" falls under "not being a bad person." But, at the same time, it is also a major goal of most feminists.

[GFK_of_xmaspast]

The presence of "harassing women" has not traditionally been in the category of "things a good person does not do".

[alttab]

Yes but the problem can be addressed without addressing sex.

[GFK_of_xmaspast]

In some universe of pure forms, sure, but on the other hand: material reality.