[mgirdley]

If you look at the open dev job postings, experienced developers are where the shortage is. Companies hire bootcamp graduates to take workload off of the experienced (3+ yrs) developers plates.

Interestingly enough, if you look at job postings you'll also see that a disproportionate number of job listings want 3-5 yrs experience. Companies want people who someone else has trained for 3 years but don't want to pay the prices that people with 5 or 10 years experience command.

Disclaimer: I run a bootcamp in San Antonio called Codeup.

[w1ntermute]

Yeah, they all want 3-5 years experience, but they're more than willing to hire someone with less once they realize that someone with 3-5 years experience is probably not available at the salary they're willing to offer.

[mgirdley]

There's an argument to be made that the vast majority of developers are underpaid in the US.

[w1ntermute]

They definitely are. If more developers knew how to negotiate, weren't so meek, and knew how to persuade/explain to managers that outsourcing is going to cost them a lot more in the long run, then the average developer would probably make a lot more money. But bargaining doesn't work so well on an individual level unless a lot of (good) developers are willing to bargain.