[cmelbye]

Arch suffers from the same problems, or at least it used to. I had a system that was out of date, and it became essentially impossible (or at least very, very difficult) to get it up to date.

[xiaomai]

Even if you keep it up to date there is frequent (relative to other distros) manual action required before running updates. An example from a few days ago: https://www.archlinux.org/news/java-users-manual-interventio... .

This is the sort of thing I expect my package manager to do for me.

That said, I like the rolling model so I use arch. I wish I could find a better rolling distro to choose.