[kilon]

Anyone that studies history knows that without Philip , Alexander would not exist nor would have the means to be "Great". So I will have to disagree, at least here in Greece Philip is as big as his son , if not bigger. But then Philip would have to stand on the shoulders of previous leaders , who stand in shoulders of other city-states inside Greece who stood in the shoulder of other countries , etc etc and etc. Overemphasising historical figures is for people that learn their history from Hollywood movies.

[argumentum]

without Philip , Alexander would not exist

Haha, you wouldn't need to know much about history to know that sons would not exist without their fathers ;)

[kilon]

I did not mean it this way.

[colanderman]

I'm 99.9% positive argumentum understood your actual meaning and was merely making a play on words.