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I tend to agree, but I'll fully admit, I'm a PHP hacker and I've been hacking in it since around 1999 or so. I didn't see this as much of a hack (read parts of the paper associated with it) as much as a way to do some cooler things in 5.3.

I consider myself a pretty good PHP programmer, but you're right, most of them out there don't deserve the title "programmer". I'm so disgusted by 99% of the open source PHP crap out there.

That said, I do look forward to learning new languages and new ways to develop on the web (what I really love doing).